– But there are cosmic themes in your films, and you've been quoted as saying that you're "trying to look at things from a cosmic dimension."

– You know how it happens, when we started we had a big social responsibility which I think still exists now. And back then I thought "Okay, we have some social problems in this political system – maybe we'll just deal with the social question." And afterwards when we made a second movie and a third we knew better that there are not only social problems. We have some ontological problems and now I think a whole pile of shit is coming from the cosmos. And there's the reason. You know how we open out step by step, film by film. It's very difficult to speak about the metaphysical and that. No. It's just always listening to life. And we are thinking about what is happening around us.

– What do you think this shit is that's coming from the cosmos?

– I just think about the quality of human life and when I say 'shit' I think I'm very close to it.

Bela Tarr, interviewed